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killera
17-03-2003, 08:35 PM
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Stopped today on the A4 by Barons Court Station left the traffic lights heading onto the hammersmith flyover. thinking its a 40 area which is is on the bridge and it being 3 lanes wide i was doing about 50 got stopped by a couple of bike police who waved me down had to brake quite sharply to do so they had no radar,
said i was doing 60 I said I was doing around 50 told me it was actually a 30 bit shocked as I thought that a dual carriage way was 40. Gave me a producer and a caution, made me sign that I said that I was doing 50 said we would go to court. Been driving my99 impreza from birth nevcer stopped what happens now? Please help
Right, Firstly what did you sign exactly?
Secondly you'll be summonsed to court, if you were issued with a fixed penalty which it doesn't sound like you were then you'd get 3 points a £60 fine. Magistrates can impose a higher penalty but I would have thought its unlikely you'd get a ban.
The two time limits are 14 days for an NIP (Which you have been given verbally at the time in which case ignore that)
and 6 months for a prosecution.
killera
17-03-2003, 08:52 PM
The head police man was taking notes in a duty book or something like that just recorded what I said, on giving me the caution I added that I could have made a mistake as I was looking at the road in front as I was driving not the speedometer which he noted down and mde me sign too
Ok, were you told anything along the lines of "You will reported for the question of prosecuting you for exceeding the speed limit" (this is the NIP) - look on the back of the producer it may also be on there.
It sounds like you were reported for summons, in which case the officer will put a report in, and you'll either get a the offer of a fixed penalty through the post or a summons.
killera
17-03-2003, 11:26 PM
Can a court iumpose a fine or ban on a police officers opinion of speed? without hard evidence. Surely if this was the case why spend millions on gatso radars and the like when officers can stand by the side of the road and pull people over and say that you looked like you were doing 60
VinnyP!
18-03-2003, 12:46 AM
http://www.emotipad.com/emoticons/Sigh.gif Outlaw whilst I am sure most people appreciate everyones input (as I do). It would be useful, particulary in the Law and related Forum, if opinions do not appear to be statements of fact.http://www.emotipad.com/emoticons/Soapbox.gif
If arrested and taken to a Police Station there are many rights including consulting a copy of the codes of practice. If you are reported for an offence these do not apply.
When reporting someone for an offence there is nothing preventing an officer cautioning someone and they must if they want to ask most questions the answers of which may be put before a court. It merely reminds people of their right to silence and the consequences of exercising that right.
Kilera
The corroborated opinion of a Police officer has always been sufficient evidence of speeding, this is usually corroborated by a speed detection/ calculation device or a speedo but can be another Police officer witnessing the same incident. All court cases depend on the evidence of witnesses speeding is no exception. It is quite unusual in that it requires corroboration and Poice officers are allowed to give 'expert evidence'. Most officers who take people to court for speeding are Traffic Officers and this is their bread and butter. I've never reported anyone for speeding.
Hope it works out OK for you.
Vince
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