Notts Police

[DEEDEE]

Notts Police are now going to be wearing green ribbons to show they have faith in the Muslim Community. Showing that they trust the average person. I thought the Police had a duty to treat all with equal respect. I would have preferred it if the Muslim Community had decided to wear this ribbon to show they respect the English way of life and Denounce Terrorism. What will happen to the average Bobby on the beat if he refuses to wear the ribbon will he be classed as racist. If he goes to deal with a incident will he then be victimising the person. Another bright idea that will only divide, Gun crime is out of control in this City would it not be better to address this.

[oldcodger]

I thought green ribbons meant you support Sinn Fein/ IRA

[XDC]

Ah.. politics! Don't you just love it? ;)

[DEEDEE]

It was a good choice of colour was'nt it ???, do you think he thought it over whilst in the pub.

[Mk1Mexico]

This is indeed a joke, not to mention a waste of MORE tax payers money!

What with charity wrist bands for this that and the other and various ribbons already me thinks the chief is on a band wagon, and many would say let it keep rolling into the distance!

I am not going to be partaking in this idea/practice, I am sure that no members of the public will have a clue as to why a cop talking to them has a green ribbon attached to their uniform.

[XDC]

I've got be honest, I really don't think I could cope with that much BS! That's really serving it up by the shovel full. :rolleyes:

[stuart30]

Notts Police are now going to be wearing green ribbons to show they have faith in the Muslim Community. Showing that they trust the average person. I thought the Police had a duty to treat all with equal respect. I would have preferred it if the Muslim Community had decided to wear this ribbon to show they respect the English way of life and Denounce Terrorism. What will happen to the average Bobby on the beat if he refuses to wear the ribbon will he be classed as racist. If he goes to deal with a incident will he then be victimising the person. Another bright idea that will only divide, Gun crime is out of control in this City would it not be better to address this.


What a fantastic idea...although to be fair to every other racial minority i think the police should wear a ribbon for each of them,so thats say a hundred ribbons per policeman x (number of police) = lots of tax payers money.:D Like i said what a great idea.:rolleyes:

I seriously think this PC bull has gone to far...ok so we have a very mixed country regards nationilities,but why should a certain community be off limits for criticism when its apporiate,certain minorities will and have used this to there advantage for some time now,surely we should treat everyone equal and not simply bend over backwards because of there chosen religion or ethnic background.

Hope this is taken how its meant and not as a racist slur.;)

[Shobhna]

Notts Police are now going to be wearing green ribbons to show they have faith in the Muslim Community. Showing that they trust the average person. I thought the Police had a duty to treat all with equal respect. I would have preferred it if the Muslim Community had decided to wear this ribbon to show they respect the English way of life and Denounce Terrorism. What will happen to the average Bobby on the beat if he refuses to wear the ribbon will he be classed as racist. If he goes to deal with a incident will he then be victimising the person. Another bright idea that will only divide, Gun crime is out of control in this City would it not be better to address this.


I agree with DeeDee.................

[wazza]

What a fantastic idea...although to be fair to every other racial minority i think the police should wear a ribbon for each of them,so thats say a hundred ribbons per policeman x (number of police) = lots of tax payers money.:D Like i said what a great idea.:rolleyes:

I seriously think this PC bull has gone to far...ok so we have a very mixed country regards nationilities,but why should a certain community be off limits for criticism when its apporiate,certain minorities will and have used this to there advantage for some time now,surely we should treat everyone equal and not simply bend over backwards because of there chosen religion or ethnic background.

Hope this is taken how its meant and not as a racist slur.;)

I think you have hit the nail on the head. I agree with what you say.

[jamesedga]

So do they treat the Musilim community with more respect now?

I personally think the MUsilim community need to get off there high horse with there so called called un elected community leaders who seem whinge and whine and belittle whilst every effort is made to please them.

What about pleasing and understanding the whole population instead of one ethnic group.

Is'nt treating a racial group differently on account of there racial background racist?

[Mk1Mexico]

This is the actual text from our force intranet:

Message from the Chief Constable – Good Faith Ribbon Campaign

Tomorrow I will be launching the Good Faith Ribbon Campaign. This is an opportunity to show support for our Muslim communities at this particularly sensitive time. One thing that became apparent quickly after the London bombings was the very real sense of isolation felt by Muslims and other minority faiths. As police officers, you will be only too well aware of the backlash against local Muslim people. Muslims – and Asian people from all backgrounds – are being subjected to abuse and threats.
Women speak of being too frightened to go shopping and of their children not wanting to go out to play.

Many have developed a completely understandable perception that people on the street are hostile; that everyone harbours suspicions.

I know there are many decent, good-hearted people in this county who are very supportive of Muslims, but don’t know how to show that support. That’s why we are introducing the Good Faith Ribbon. This is a green ribbon which can be worn as a visible sign of unity at this difficult time. It expresses faith in Muslims as people of peace; it is a sign of drawing together in good faith.

As police officers we have a duty of care to everyone in the community. We also have an obligation to set an example to other people. I would urge you all to wear a green ribbon when you are out on the streets to show solidarity with our Muslim neighbours, colleagues and friends.

Thank you for your support and for the work you undertake every day dealing with racist and religiously motivated incidents.

Chief Constable
Steve Green

[wazza]

Hmmmm is this recognition of Muslims or is it a way of showing everyone you support your chief... GREEN ribbons, and his name is Steve GREEN.

I dont personally think he should have asked you to do this.......

What if he was to ask you to support breast cancer would you all wear Pink Ribbons as well....

Do we expect to wear ribbons and rubber bands all over our uniforms everytime someone thinks we should support something?

How far will this go? Sorry but I would not support this act and hope some of your officers express concerns to your chief over this... What do other feds think?

[18wheeler]

I agree with DeeDee.................i'm with you too:D ,i personally hate racism,and bigots in general on any level,its amazing how many narrow minded and misinformed people there are out there:( . any person,or group of people that pick on anybody else,for instance, because of the colour of someones skin,or the country they originate from,really,really pee me off,as far as im concerned they have no place in our communities:twisted: look what happened too that poor lad in liverpool the other week,disgusting:( ,and the same can be said,when you get groups of extremists on our streets,preaching hate against us and our country,:twisted: ,if you don't like us,if you don't like our country,and our laws,then do us all a favour and **** off.:twisted:

[Mk1Mexico]

I do not agree with singling out of one faith or ethnicitiy out for special recognition, this could even add to the problem with other faiths feeling the Police are now not supporting them and giving special treatment to another one.

I have so far seen 0 green ribbons being worn in this division, and on asking around no one else has seen a ribbon being worn either.

Nottingham is not a city that high on the terrorism tension scale, I would be interested to hear how The Met and West Yorks are approaching the issues referred to by our chief as your forces were at the forefront of the 7th and 21st July activities.

[admag]

I'm an atheist, does that mean i'm public enemy No1,
i have no moral guidelines
I don't worship anything - makes me impressionable
Don't value anything
i believe others are weak needing to believe in an omipresent deity......

police should wear a white ribbon to represent understanding of my religion...

on a serious note,
I do have morals, instilled by parents upbring and peers
I worship life, that fact that it's too short for arguing on which religion is "the One" if your happy with it good, stop trying to convert others
I value other people friends family, opinions when they are requested, giving respect, treating others how they treat you.

Omnipresent deity - well evolution serves me well.

This isn't a rant or a pi55 take, well maybe a little facecious.
but If different races and religions live in this country it should be accepted that our rights and rules are that based on the Pagan,Catholic & Church of England faiths.
we have bowed to others beliefs, letting Mosques, Temples, Synagogues be built for prayer.
But when it comes to not being able to fly the St George Flag on the day of our Patron Saint because of offending others, is taking it too far, we have to respect their religion, but "they" insult "ours".

Those of you that have been to the far East! Please tell me how many Catholic churches do you See, exactly are Mosques not allowed to call to prayer because of offending the other relgions..... I don't think so. You reside in that country you live by their laws.

acceptance can be preached by those who think "we" should make an effort
more effort should be made on the otherside of the fence.

The "..." denotes the reputed individuals clustered together that suffices a a generic reference.

My little addition herein represents my thoughts, not that of any other individual or the forum as a whole unless they express it themselves.

[18wheeler]

nice 1 admag,pretty much as i see it!

[HIGHLANDER]

Admag have you been in my head ? couldn't agree more with you.

[Julz]

agree with admag too

[stuart30]

Those of you that have been to the far East! Please tell me how many Catholic churches do you See.

Was that meant as you dont see them or you do...:confused:

My wifes country has a large amount,but then something like 85% of the country is catholic in the philippines.

[jamesedga]

What's the Muslim community doing to help its self except attack those who are there to help it for being racist.


If there community leaders were so wise, clever and knowledgable then they could furnish the police with a list of these so called preahers of hate and then the police could attempt do act.

[admag]

Sorry for causing confusion how about countries below 31 degrees 78minute N and beyond 35 degrees 22 minutes east upto 77degrees 21 minutes east

[QBee]

Its daft.
For all the countries in the world, i think the UK is very tolerant of other races and cultures. You just have to look around and you see people from all different backgrounds interacting and getting along.
I think, in all honesty, it is the uneducated minority that will see the attacks on London as being a Muslim movement, and not that of a extremist group. The same as when there were IRA bombing and attacks, we didnt feel the need to wear ribbons to remind the world we werent going to hate every Irish person that we met.
I have a very good friend who is a shi'ite muslim, and he has expressed exactly the same feelings as everyone else in this country, and perhaps a slight exagerrated anger as the exuses of extremists is in the name of a religion he shares wth them.
I think that most people now realise the difference between a moderate muslim, and a terrorist.
A lot of other European countries dont allow people to express their cultures in public, take france's ruling on childrens permissable school attire, and yet in this country, we have that freedom. I dont see any need to reiterrate that we are happy to live along side muslim communities, allowing them to stay true to their domestic traditions, and live the lives they chose to live.
Where does it stop? Does that mean that the next time anyone feels threatened, we'll whip out the ribbons to show that we arent offended by their beliefs?
What nonsense.

[DEEDEE]

In our Local paper the ribbons are now being offered to the public through Police Stations and Council Offices. A Spokesman has said this has happened because local residents support the campaign 100%. It has cost around £3000 to produce these ribbons, and Police Officers will not be compelled to wear these but members have been urged to take part. If you refuse to wear your ribbon will this make you Racist, and how many toerags will abuse the system.

[Mk1Mexico]

If you refuse to wear your ribbon will this make you Racist

Well then I must be one of those :eek:

[Eunos]

I do not agree with singling out of one faith or ethnicitiy out for special recognition, this could even add to the problem with other faiths feeling the Police are now not supporting them and giving special treatment to another one.
I believe this is called positive discrimination, the same as putting an Asian officer in an area of high Asian population and high Asian crime or putting the photo's of Black, Asian, oriental or white officers onto recruiting brochures in the respective areas. Whilst we are on the subject, wht do th epolice need a black police officers association yet to have a white officers accosiation would be illegal? Why can't the police federation represent ALL police officers??:soapbox: Sorry, I'll stand down from this as it is obviously not PC

[jamesedga]

Well said Eunos

[sirius]

Why would a White Police Association be illegal?

Alternativly, why don't all the white police officers join the BPA? If they prevent you from joining on the basis of the colour of your skin, they are guilty of racial discrimination.

[SteveScooby]

To sum up then, a load of PC rubbish!!

That's PC as in Politically Correct by the way!